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Should content from the User's and Reference manual be incorporated into this site? Then in the content pages, one could reference a section of Walter's manuals.
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== New ==
--[[User:Saper|Saper]] 22:54, 16 Feb 2005 (CST)
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* Due to wiki code (or my inability) I couldn't get images to float left/right in the table w/o it looking really ugly.  So, if someone can get say the Colorama example to float right and look good, please do.
  
Saper, I had considered that.  I was going to strip out all the commands from PyMol and make a "commands" page where people could flush in some contentMaybe we'd be better off starting with page-by-page inserting PyMol commands into the wiki. (?)
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* Let me know if you like the updates to the main page.  I like it because it utilizes more of the screen real estate. Thus, no scrolling (for me).  If you can clean it up, and make it prettier, feel free. [[User:Inchoate|Tree]] 17:08, 9 December 2007 (CST)
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[[User:Tree|Tree]] 00:12, 17 Feb 2005 (CST)
 
  
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*So, I found out, finally, why it's been hard to find things. Category pages aren't scanned for keywords for searching. So, we'll need to move our category pages' text to new pages and make the links. For example, searching for "mencoder" didn't work before today.  Since I moved <nowiki>[[:Category:Software_Movies]]</nowiki> to '''Making_Movies''' we can now search for the keywords in that page.
From Luca Jovine:
 
I apologize for being late, but... how about a section about nucleic acids? As in any other related program, they always end up being the poor siblings of proteins (I can't believe PyMOL's  cartoon command still does not recognise the most common 5' and 3' nucleotides!), and I'm pretty sure people who work with them would benefit from such a section in the Wiki.
 
Thanks,
 
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Where should we put the Nucleic Acids Stuff?
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*Well, one idiot/spammer made it through the new system. If there's an influx of the idiots, we may go back to the old registration method, as that seemed pretty secure.
  
[[User:Tree|Tree]]
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* Feature Request: Support for 3D DLP and plasma HDTVs. These require a different stereo output format (checkerboard.) Feel free to contact me for details. --[[User:Martyholloway|Martyholloway]] 17:46, 30 May 2008 (CDT)
  
== collapsing simple and advanced topics ==
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== Some Thoughts For Discussion ==
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* Folks, please check out the section [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Images#Gallery_of_images MediaWiki Image Galleries] for cleaning up the code for  inserting more than one image.  This fixes the problem of having to insert tons of blank lines to cleanly offset the following text.  So, if you have some time, please head back to old pages and help clean this up.
  
"Simple" vs "advanced" tasks are currently separated out, so that there are multiple places to find information on each topic, (eg - atom selections). I believe that all information about each topic should be kept together, but with many logical subheadings to separate them (and organized from simple->complex). That way a user only need look in one area to find the solution to their problem, rather than hunting around the wiki to find whether their answer is in the simple or advanced sections of each topic.
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* We need to accurately document settings for PyMol.  This would greatly improve the value of the site. We should also provide images and examples.
--[[User:Jcorn|Jcorn]] 14:51, 17 Feb 2005 (CST)
 
  
Jcorn, I agree, but I didn't/don't know the appropriate layout. It seems to be a 2x2 matrix
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* For people (like me) who don't know the first thing about Wiki's, more "newbies click here to learn" links would help ease the transition...
Ex:
 
  
* Topic A
 
** Simple Usage
 
** Advanced Usage
 
  
* Topic B
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==Where is the anti-spam mechanism/strategy?==
** Simple Usage
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Manual removing spam contents really sucks.
** Advanced Usage
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Edit by AdShea
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One good strategy is to search all namespaces for 'http' (without the quotes).  This will show links containing that string, which should catch any spam links.
  
Or,
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== Needed Editing ==
  
* Simple Usage
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Needed edits are the following:
** Topic A
 
** Topic B
 
  
* Advanced Usage
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# We need more thorough "See Also" sections on each page.  [[Mesh]] shows what each page should look like.  People need to be able to find their content easily.
** Topic A
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## After some playing with this, I think we should create categories for each SET of settings.  Like, "surface_settings" and then just put all the surface settings in there.  Then, we can simply link out to this page and it'll change dynamically with the settings.
** Topic B
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# We need to continue linking categories to their respective pages.
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# More images should be uploaded for the settings changes so people can ''see'' what the settings do as well as read how to control them.
  
See?  I do agree and think that the better organization is to keep all the commands grouped as tightly as possible and put simple/medium/advanced on each page.
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== Searching ==
  
[[User:Tree|Tree]] 17:51, 17 Feb 2005 (CST)
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The default method for searching, eg hitting ENTER, should be the "Search" command not the "Go" command.
  
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* The search function is abysmal. If I type in "shadow" I get nothing. If I go to google and type in "site:pymolwiki.org shadow" I get both of the pages for ray-trace shadows which is what I wanted ("Ray Shadow" and "Ray Shadows"). I assume that there are two entries because of the poor search function. Just do what Wikipedia does and offer a google search of the site if the search function comes up empty-handed (Wikipedia does search the text of it's articles correctly but the google offer includes all languages). [[User:MortenGroftehauge|MortenGroftehauge]] ([[User talk:MortenGroftehauge|talk]]) 14:53, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
  
Personally, I think the former organization scheme is more useful for both experienced and novice users. Since it organizes based on task/topic, rather than trying to relate the task to how skilled one thinks a user would have to be to attempt it. Anyway, it looks like the topic list has sorted itself out pretty nicely.
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== New Format ==
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Code for the new page
  
--[[User:Jcorn|Jcorn]] 00:39, 18 Feb 2005 (CST)
 
  
==Quote==
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__NOTOC__
However, a good Wiki needs to be structured beforehand, rather than having
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everything grow by itself. Users will add things where aproppriate, anyway.  
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{| align="center" style="padding-bottom: 4em;"
Thus, in a heavily used Wiki its definitely easy to get lost.
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|+ style="font-size:210%; font-weight: bold; color:#032d45; text-align:center; padding: 5px; margin-bottom: 7px" | Welcome to the PyMOL Wiki!
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|- style="text-align:center; font-weight:bold; color: #6d6003; font-size: 140%; font-style: italic; font-family: serif;"
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| The community-run support site for the [http://pymol.org PyMOL] molecular viewer.
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|}
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{| align="center" width="45%" style="background: #EDEBD5; margin-bottom: 4em; border-bottom: 1px solid #AFB29E; border-left: 1px solid #AFB29E; border-right: 1px solid #AFB29E;"
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|+ style="font-size: 1.4em; font-weight: bold; color: #032d45; text-align:center; background: #5F7F96; padding-top:0.5em; padding-bottom: 0.25em; border-top: 2px solid #AFB29E; border-bottom: 1px solid #fff;" |Quick Links
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|-
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| style="font-size: 1.1em; color #61021F; padding: 0.5em 1em 0.5em 3em;"|'''[[:Category:Tutorials|Tutorials]]''' || '''[[TOPTOC|Table of Contents]]''' || '''[[:Category:Commands|Commands]]'''
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|-
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| style="font-size: 1.1em; color #61021F; padding: 0.5em 1em 0.5em 3em;"|'''[[:Category:Script_Library|Script Library]]''' || '''[[:Category:Plugins|Plugins]]''' || '''[[:Category:FAQ|FAQ]]'''
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|-
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| style="font-size: 1.1em; color #61021F; padding: 0.5em 1em 0.5em 3em;"|'''[[Gallery]]''' | '''[[Covers]]'''
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||'''[[CheatSheet|PyMOL Cheat Sheet]]''' (''[[Media:PymolRef.pdf|PDF]]'')
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||'''[[GoogleSearch]]'''
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|}
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{| width="100%"
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| style="vertical-align: top; width: 45%" |
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{| class="jtable" style="float: left; width: 90%;"
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|+ style="font-size: 1.4em; font-weight: bold; text-align:left; border-bottom: 2px solid #6678b1;" | News &amp; Updates
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! Warren
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| News about Warren DeLano's passing may be read on [[Warren|Warren's memorial page]].
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|-
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! PyMOLWiki
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| Reformatted Main Page.
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|-
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! PyMOLWiki
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| New &mdash; Search the PyMOLWiki via [[GoogleSearch]]
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|-
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! PyMOL
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| PyMOL is known to work under Mac OS X 10+ (Snow Leopard) using the new Fink and incentive builds.  See [[MAC_Install#PyMOL_Install_from_Source.2C_Using_Fink|Installing PyMOL under Fink]].
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|-
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! PyMOL
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| PyMOL now has a [[Set]] command for basic settings, and a [[Set_bond]] command for bond-only settings.
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|-
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! PyMOL
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| [[Space]]&mdash; new command to control PyMOL's usage of color spaces.
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|}
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|style="vertical-align: top; width: 45%"|
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{| class="jtable" style="float: right; width: 90%"
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|+ style="font-size: 1.4em; font-weight: bold; text-align:left; border-bottom: 2px solid #6678b1;" |Do you know this PyMOL command...
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|<div class="didyouknow" >
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namespace=
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category=Commands
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includepage=*
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escapelinks=false
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resultsheader=__NOTOC__ __NOEDITSECTION__
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randomcount=1
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mode=userformat
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addpagecounter=true
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listseparators=,<h3>[[%PAGE%]]</h3>,,\n
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Latest revision as of 00:36, 4 April 2016

New

  • Due to wiki code (or my inability) I couldn't get images to float left/right in the table w/o it looking really ugly. So, if someone can get say the Colorama example to float right and look good, please do.
  • Let me know if you like the updates to the main page. I like it because it utilizes more of the screen real estate. Thus, no scrolling (for me). If you can clean it up, and make it prettier, feel free. Tree 17:08, 9 December 2007 (CST)
  • So, I found out, finally, why it's been hard to find things. Category pages aren't scanned for keywords for searching. So, we'll need to move our category pages' text to new pages and make the links. For example, searching for "mencoder" didn't work before today. Since I moved [[:Category:Software_Movies]] to Making_Movies we can now search for the keywords in that page.
  • Well, one idiot/spammer made it through the new system. If there's an influx of the idiots, we may go back to the old registration method, as that seemed pretty secure.
  • Feature Request: Support for 3D DLP and plasma HDTVs. These require a different stereo output format (checkerboard.) Feel free to contact me for details. --Martyholloway 17:46, 30 May 2008 (CDT)

Some Thoughts For Discussion

  • Folks, please check out the section MediaWiki Image Galleries for cleaning up the code for inserting more than one image. This fixes the problem of having to insert tons of blank lines to cleanly offset the following text. So, if you have some time, please head back to old pages and help clean this up.
  • We need to accurately document settings for PyMol. This would greatly improve the value of the site. We should also provide images and examples.
  • For people (like me) who don't know the first thing about Wiki's, more "newbies click here to learn" links would help ease the transition...


Where is the anti-spam mechanism/strategy?

Manual removing spam contents really sucks.


Edit by AdShea One good strategy is to search all namespaces for 'http' (without the quotes). This will show links containing that string, which should catch any spam links.

Needed Editing

Needed edits are the following:

  1. We need more thorough "See Also" sections on each page. Mesh shows what each page should look like. People need to be able to find their content easily.
    1. After some playing with this, I think we should create categories for each SET of settings. Like, "surface_settings" and then just put all the surface settings in there. Then, we can simply link out to this page and it'll change dynamically with the settings.
  2. We need to continue linking categories to their respective pages.
  3. More images should be uploaded for the settings changes so people can see what the settings do as well as read how to control them.

Searching

The default method for searching, eg hitting ENTER, should be the "Search" command not the "Go" command.

  • The search function is abysmal. If I type in "shadow" I get nothing. If I go to google and type in "site:pymolwiki.org shadow" I get both of the pages for ray-trace shadows which is what I wanted ("Ray Shadow" and "Ray Shadows"). I assume that there are two entries because of the poor search function. Just do what Wikipedia does and offer a google search of the site if the search function comes up empty-handed (Wikipedia does search the text of it's articles correctly but the google offer includes all languages). MortenGroftehauge (talk) 14:53, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

New Format

Code for the new page



Welcome to the PyMOL Wiki!
The community-run support site for the PyMOL molecular viewer.
Quick Links
Tutorials Table of Contents Commands
Script Library Plugins FAQ
Gallery | Covers PyMOL Cheat Sheet (PDF) GoogleSearch


News & Updates
Warren News about Warren DeLano's passing may be read on Warren's memorial page.
PyMOLWiki Reformatted Main Page.
PyMOLWiki New — Search the PyMOLWiki via GoogleSearch
PyMOL PyMOL is known to work under Mac OS X 10+ (Snow Leopard) using the new Fink and incentive builds. See Installing PyMOL under Fink.
PyMOL PyMOL now has a Set command for basic settings, and a Set_bond command for bond-only settings.
PyMOL Space— new command to control PyMOL's usage of color spaces.
Do you know this PyMOL command...

The DPL extension (version 2.3.0) produced a SQL statement which lead to a Database error.
The reason may be an internal error of DPL or an error which you made,
especially when using DPL options like titleregexp.
Query text is:
SELECT DISTINCT `page`.page_namespace AS page_namespace,`page`.page_title AS page_title,`page`.page_id AS page_id, `page`.page_title AS sortkey, `page`.page_counter AS page_counter FROM `page` INNER JOIN `categorylinks` AS cl0 ON `page`.page_id=cl0.cl_from AND (cl0.cl_to='Commands') WHERE 1=1 AND `page`.page_namespace IN (0) AND `page`.page_is_redirect=0 ORDER BY page_title ASC LIMIT 500 OFFSET 0

Error message is:
Unknown column 'page.page_counter' in 'field list' (data01-pymol.chw7f2hgrkps.us-west-2.rds.amazonaws.com)